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Where did Augeri?s voice go? on tape I presume!

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Submitted by Kaj Roth on 2006-06-14
Where did Augeri?s voice go? on tape I presume!

Journey has just done a successful tour in Europe where the fans met up at the festivals and other shows in England,Holland,Germany and Sweden.
What few people do not know though is that frontman Steve Augeri is lipsynching his way through the concerts.
He has voice problems as you can hear on a few live clips at the link below,there are also clips with live versions from 2 different venues and years on the same song where you can listen to the exact same vocals from Augeri but yet the music sounds different.
I?m a huge Journey fan but I can?t deal with this anylonger,this band need to tell their fans what they get when going to a Journey concert.
Enjoy:
www.escape-to-tape.blogspot.com/

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Ted Oliphant
Yes it?s true, the hard drive crashed and there was poor Steve Augeri naked with his real voicals coming through the P.A. Deen Castronovo (who can play all of Steve Smith?s Drum parts while singing all of Perry?s vocal parts perfectly) saved the day by jumping off the drum riser and taking over vocals. His roadie took over drumming. No one has heard Steve Augeri sing for 3 years. I did a video of them in 1999 at Concord Pavillion and poor Stevie (a very nice guy) was having trouble even then. People told me it was the best Video of Journey they had ever seen, all except Neal Schon who watched my video and cringed as Augeri regularly went off key and his voice cracked. Neal has perfect pitch. Herbie Herbert (former Journey Manager) told me "Man when I first heard Augeri?s audition tape, I said he owns these songs." But the following year Stevie A. was in seroius trouble, by the time they did the Live DVD Video from Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nocturne (The video production company formerly owned by Schon & Herbert) had two isolate all of Stevie A.?s vocal tracks and "Fix" them in Pro-Tools, correcting pitch etc. A deviated septum surgery didn?t help matters at all. When you watch my videos "Concord & Beyond" &"Fillmore Boogie" on the www.journeymusic.com website (Click on "Fan Club" then "Photos & Videos" to download, you?ll notice I had to take Stevie A. out of both videos or they never would?ve seen the light of day. Former Journey guitar wizard/composer George Tickner told me yesterday "It?s pathetic, now they?re only in it for the money". Former Production Manager Allen Craft also is "Feelin? That Way" he said to me "You can?t stop the Gravy Train" . Seems like this Gravy Train has de-railed itself, now it?s a Crazy Train. By the way I was at Skywalker Rance when Journey recorded "Trial By Fire" and Steve Perry was pleasant and could still sing great. If they had waited until Perry decided to have surgery on his own and not gone out with Augeri, Perry would still be with them today. I always said "Hell, just put him in a wheel chair and get him to the show and "Wheel In This Guy". Oh well as Perry said to Jonathan Cain "You know there?s no going back" Ted Oliphant Las Vegas, Nevada tedoliphant@hotmail.com

wildone
wow and now he?s gone!!!Go figure!!!Like we did?nt see that coming....The train wreck continues!!!!

wildone
and people say we make dumbass comments...damn that was a moron move !!

Dave
I know now why RocknDeano is out to destroy Steve Augeri, it seems that his girl was tired of him and tried to get Steve into her bed, now ofcourse he turned the ho down. But this saga will end soon when RocknDeano receives mail from Journey?s legal team.

wildone
But the sad thing is ...he?s not ...you might wanna give him some lessons...lol

Roger Waters
I get away with it, why not Steve? A Fair Vocal Forgery 07 - The Gunners Dream (100% proof starting at 4:30) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VHK2GMCN preview on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K01ta-tOxPc 04 - Have A Cigar http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IHS2KDCF preview on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peQUfVtPl5I 09 - The Fletcher Memorial Home http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FX7IQZU2 preview on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm5YhoRIiQ

wildone
hmmmm and the saga continues!!!

The allegations have now been broadcast on KLOS 95.5 in Los Angeles...a mainstream station in a VERY large market. Talk of charges is ridiculous. One idiot calling himself "close to the band" is nothing more than a washed up Georgia mall photographer.

Robbie
You know this asshole RocknDeano is even worse than the mods at backtalk, at least backtalk let?s you place criticism but they ?ll close it. RocknDeano doesn?t even place the criticism on his blog, I?ve left several messages and none of them can be found. Now tell me, who?s the fraud here, he should be brought of for charges, and I?ve heard from people close to the band that this will happen soon.

Spanky
Such an intelligent post. I see why you neglected to post your name. No, I?m not kicked off of any website actually, but thanks for your concern. If you bother to READ my post, you?ll see that it states the text that went out to radio stations nationwide over their prep service. It was Journey?s publicist that they tried to contact. They aren?t interested in the message boards.

Spanky,you are a dumb ass!Get your facts straight.Journey?s web site is talking about it.Are you kicked off that forum too.Just another one of Rockin Deano?s Suck ass followers.Hey Spanky,Look up you stupid shit.....The Sky is falling ....you dumb ass!

Spanky!!
This blurb went out yesterday to radio stations nationwide on their prep service. The Eagle is very much mainstream media. Time for Journey to wake up and smell the coffee!! They?ve already been canceled on ROCKLINE!!!! http://www.1039theeagle.com/rocknews.shtml JOURNEY SINGER ACCUSED OF LIP-SYNCHING If an anonymous blogger is to be believed, Journey concerts haven?t exactly been live performances. The Escape To Tape site has messages from "rockndeano" that say Journey frontman Steve Augeri (pronounced aw-JEER-ee) has been lip-syncing on stage to a pre-recorded vocal track, while the band plays live behind him. To prove his point, "rockndeano" has been posting live audio recordings and video footage online that he says prove his point, but several of the clips have been removed from their hosting site, and the blogger says pressure from Journey?s management forced the hosting sites to take them down -- but a couple of audio tracks can still be found. There?s been no public response from the Journey camp, but the band?s webmaster is refusing to allow any discussion of the topic on the journeymusic.com message boards "until the rumors and speculation are officially addressed." Based on his posts, "Rockndeano" expects a response from Journey at any time. To check it out for yourself, go to escape-to-tape.blogspot.com. Neither the blogger nor Journey?s publicist responded to messages yesterday (Sunday, June 18th)

hellstream
It?s pathetic to hear Disgusted and others defend the practise of having lead singer vocals ON TAPE and not telling anyone. That?s fraud and nothing less. People are paying tickets to see the band LIVE not lipsynching. If they can?t cut it on stage then they shouldn?t do this anymore. There are thousands of aspiring bands that actually can play and sing live up for the spot Journeys holding on to. I can understand that pop crap like Britney Spears lipsynch. Noone expects anything else really but Journey!?!? Remember Milli Vanilli? This is the same once again!

Tour of the Century?
Whatever!

wildone
Million dollar baby They can make an update 24 hrs before any show ...and monday is a new week...so anything can happen...Don?t cry to hard when things reall hit tyhe fan next week.

milliondollarbaby
5 more days and the tour of the century will start, hmmm no press release, the tour still happening. I would tell you to pull your heads out of your ass but you probably love the position by now !!! Rock on Journey !!!!!

wildone
If lipsyncing is firmly a hold of the helm ....lol then they might just want to do a reality check!!!

You Poor Deluded Augeri Fans
Journey release a bland press release about how much they enjoyed their European tour - and you interpret this as evidence that this scandal will go away. What did you expect them to say? They?ve been conning their own fans for a long time now - so they?re hardly likely to get honest in a hurry. Whatever anyone thinks of Deano, it just can?t be denied that he has exposed this band for the crass, inauthentic organisation they?ve become. It?s beyond me how anyone can show such blind loyalty to a group who clearly don?t show any respect to their fans in return.

Robbie
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i can?t stop laughing, all of you dumbasses are really sure there?s going to be some announcement and then this message is put on the band?s site by the band. looks like stevie is at the helm very firmly ...

Rocko
Here?s the pressrelease you?ve been waiting for: "Band Announcements June 17, 2006 JOURNEY would like to extend a huge THANK YOU to all of our European fans for the reaction we received on our recent trip. The welcoming response from our fans was totally unexpected, and goes to prove what we?ve said and known all along .. that JOURNEY fans are the greatest fans in the world. We want you all to know that we were totally blown away by your tremendous and positive response to our shows and songs, and that we had no idea how much you have missed seeing us, but even more so, how much we?ve missed seeing you and visiting your great countries. We promise to return and do a more extensive tour. Journey to Europe in 2006 was a Rockin? Time and we?re coming back so stay tuned to this site! With warmest & heartfelt thanks, Neal, Jon, Ross, Steve, & Deen"

Dean is the Pussy man
Whats wrong Dean?Is the shit hitting the fan and its blowing in your ugly face?Is your foot still in your big mouth?Ha come on Deano boy,have you had enough?Is the pussy man Deano hideing now?Maybe he is back on his meds!looks like Dean is getting his arse whipped.Ha Ha we all knew Deano was a puss from the begining!That all goes back to Dean?s childhood problems.Can you admit this Dean,you used to get your ass kicked when you were in School.Wait a minute you never went to school did your stupid ass?Well dumb ass you better start reading into the legal shit because you are about to take a ride you dont want to be on!Come out and play Deano,come out come out where ever you are.Waveing hi Deano Polar:^)

Deano is the pussy man
I read on Dean?s blog he is not going to post this weekend.Dean,you are a pussy!You are taking advise from a friend.Whats that advise,you have one foot in your mouth and the other up your ass.Believe me you whimp,you are going to have much more shoved up your ass when you go to Prison.We all know you are used to haveing shoved up your ass!Step back and look at all of this.You have dug your self a big hole,in that hole sits WILDONE and SPANKY right there with your sorry ass.Dean,you are lower than life......itself.You know you are wrong from the start now your pussy instinkt takes over and you are not going to post.We all knew it would come to this little man with big mouth.Looks like Dean Polar has now FUCKED him self!

Spanky
http://www.shipwreckislandstudios.com/ ? So by now maybe you?ve heard, then again maybe you haven?t. A music fan has been listening to bootlegged Journey material from their new 2006 tour. While doing so this person noticed the material sounded extremely similar to Journey?s 2001 Live DVD. The fan then listed to the audio from the DVD and matched it with the current live bootlegs only to find out the lead vocals are identical. Identical as in Journey is playing the lead singer?s vocals over the PA during the live show as the lead singer mimic?s the material. True? Not True? Well it doesn?t come as a shock to us here if this indeed turns out to be true simply because we?ve seen Journey spiraling downward for the past 2 years. We waited on posting information as well as our view on the situation because we were hoping that it would just be dropped and go away. But as we?ve been told, things are going to get heated starting next week. After tons of emails coming to both myself and Jere we decided best to address this before anything else comes out about what?s going on within the band Journey. First off we aren?t going to reply to anyone?s email about this situation because 1. there?s a lot of you asking the same questions and 2. the answers will be laid out below as far as what we know. So the big question is: Do we know anything about the current issues that are floating around stating that lead singer "Steve Augeri" has been lip-syncing material live in concert? - Answer: In a matter of speaking yes we have some additional information that others are looking into. What exactly would that be? Well first of all we want you to make up your own mind, if you think there?s nothing wrong with someone lip-syncing material during a "Concert" then that?s good for you. Same goes the other way if you feel that it?s wrong to lip-sync during a concert. Either way we aren?t holding anything against anyone except when it comes to the band. Our information is slightly different then the other sites out there because it?s the things we?ve seen in the past few years as far as what the band has been up to, when they tour, when they release albums and when they lie to their fans. We?ll give a better answer to the big question above last. So that brings us to our information, it?s based in a series of questions for you the fans and then our point of view will be added to the ending. 1. Concert?s were filmed for DVD releases, yet the band still hasn?t released a new lineup DVD since 2001?s Vegas disc why? - According to band member interviews given the past couple years they all seem to say there?s lack of "Useable Footage" even Schon himself on Rockline last year mentioned this. - Our Point Of View: Lack of useable footage? Seriously there?s only 2 ways that could be, one is that they had extremely bad cameramen with bad angles and the lighting was junk. Or two the audio mix was extremely bad that even if the video looked good it wasn?t useable unless they dubbed the audio in. Oh wait, but didn?t they do that on VH1 Classics with Faith In The Heartland? Why yes they did. If you ever watch Vh1 Classics sometimes they show footage from live events, well there?s a video of Journey live singing Faith In The Heartland though it?s been overdubbed with the studio track and then filtered over with the live crowd in spots. I was disappointed when I saw that video a few months back. Of course the 3rd mystery reason which is a bit farfetched is the fact that maybe they can?t release a new dvd because of the whole Perry situation. But that brings up another interesting point. 2. If in theory (as no one knows for sure) Perry controls what the band releases and there?s been talk of how the band can?t release another DVD with classic songs or even rerecord material then why can shows like American Idol and other bands rerecord Journey classics? - According to some backtalk members as well as mods Perry owns rights to the material and therefore the band can not rerecord things without his permission. - Our Point Of View: I?ve been saying that exact question for the past couple years, funny how other bands as well as American Idol can get the rights to rerecord or perform the material but the guys who helped write the material can?t get access to make a DVD or even rerecord material if they so choose to if in fact the whole Perry is holding them back theory is true, which I doubt. The way I see it, it?s a lack of vision from Neal Schon. He?s said he?d like to be a household name so how does he do it? Well he tried to get a band together with Sammy Hagar and Joe Satriani which would have turned many heads and actually was a great idea. But then because Sammy went off to do the Van Halen thing Schon didn?t want to wait around thus bring Soul SirkUS into the mix which was a good idea when it started. Schon had a power punched lineup but then it all went to nothing after many many issues, which we are not getting into again on this site - we are over and done with all that. So Schon didn?t become a household name, so what did Journey do next? They quickly released Generations which wasn?t a great disc and lacked the power punched Journey sound that even Arrival had. Generations like GNR?s Use Your Illusions discs is the good, the bad and the ugly of Journey. But wait there?s a chance to save the material by touring with Def Leppard this summer? Look I?m all for promoting a product that?s what we try and do on the site, give you our point of view on what?s being released and then you make the decision to take our advice and purchase the disc or not. But what Journey is doing this summer just doesn?t make sense your promoting an album that was released over a year ago not to mention their going to be on Rockline next month no doubt to talk about the tour the ending of Soul SirkUS for the most part anyways and of course their album Generations. Which now leads to our 3rd and final question. 2. Does Steve Augeri lip-syncing his material during concerts? - Well for the past few years there?s always been mentions of Augeri losing his voice weather it was him being sick or fan reports saying he didn?t sound quite right during a stretch of shows. - Our Point Of View: You know I wouldn?t put it past Journey to use technology to better their concerts. I read some others talking about this subject and how some really didn?t care weather Augeri was doing this or not because it?s a show like a movie you pay to see something and you take away what you like. I like how that was put forth I think that?s a great way to look at this situation. Take away from it what you?d like if you think a concert is like a movie and you pay to be entertained for a few hours and that?s all then you shouldn?t care how the concert is being performed. Oh but if your a music buff and you dish out a ton of money to sit next to the stage and take in the view of your favorite band or bands and you see them pulling a lip-sync concert you know you wouldn?t be happy at all. It?s like seeing your favorite superhero come to live only to find out they really don?t have super powers. So to sum it all up do we think this is taking place, yes we do, do we care? Yes we do. Why? Because it?s wrong, it?s one thing to tell fans that your lead singer lost his voice or that he?s sick or a true reason but to hide what?s going on and lead people on just to make money, I?ve lost respect for the band the past couple years. Simply because it?s not about the music it?s about the dollar signs and controlling something that isn?t controllable and that?s true music fans. True music fans certainly don?t sit down and take things up the rear, they fight to know the truth. This is why this information is coming out, true fans are tired of the lies and shelling out cash to see the same show over and over again. They want more, new material that sounds like the original band and bring back those memories of when it was all about the music. So will I buy Journey albums? Yes I will because I still feel the band is strong but like I mentioned about they lack vision and maybe if this all comes out in the open the band can finally move on and get back to what?s really important, the music. So to close this subject we?ve decided to go ahead and post the blog from the person who brought this all into the open. We will say there?s a lot of fowl language on this blog so use your judgment if your a child, please!! There were sound clips available but their being deleted pretty quickly either by fans of Journey or their management. If someone posts this link on Back Talk (Journey?s Official Forums) it will be deleted without warning. We are not siding with anyone on this matter, I want to make that clear. We posted our point of view on what has gone on the past 2 years and how we?ve seen the band spiral downward. You make your own choice as to what you want to believe. We still love this band truly hope that Steve Augeri if there is a vocal issue that he gets some down time, rest would be a good thing. _

wildone
meme you dumbass it was on the kfog news!!!!so you need to get a clue!!Anyone can call and ask ...and if they tell you no it wasn?t on you could make me look like a fool ...I?m waiting to be proved wrong!!Or are you afraid of the truth?so pull your head out of your ass (but i?m sure you like the smell of the cave)and wake up!

meme
hey wildone...you?re the dumbass if you think anyone is going to fall for that ruse. "it?s on the radio in Cali" yeah get everyone to call and ask so that a buzz does get started. MORON! go back under your rock with your tadpoles.

wildone
Robbie ...hey dumbass how come its been on the radio out here in calif???wake up!!what a dumbass!!!another person whos needs to get white adidas and a black sweatsuit ...go wait for your ship...it?ll be here soon...(i hope)

Robbie
I?ve done a google search about this subject and this is the only thing that can be found about this. Why would a great band like Journey comment on a couple of sorry ass fools who try to destroy them. I guess in a week from now when another great tour starts you?ll all crawl back whereever you came from knowing you?re so wrong about this Augeri bashing.

wildone
I can see them with there fingers in there ears going ..lalalalalalalalalala not gonna hear it lalalalalalala....lmao they?ll wake up soon.hey they can send me there money for the 5 star tickets and i?ll do karaoke for them!!!whats the diff????

Spanky
Amid all the childish name calling, I believe we have forgotten what the issue is here. From: Svante Pettersson - view profile Date: Mon, Jun 12 2006 12:15 am Email: "Svante Pettersson" Groups: alt.audio.pro.live-sound I am just back from Sweden Rock Festival, one of Europe?s biggest hard rock festivals. At the festival, I was working for Swedish Radio as a producer for some of the live recordings done for the radio. Normally, I am a live sound engineer but once a year, I tag along with my old friends at Swedish Radio to have some fun on this great festival. The biggest topic of discussion among our crew during the festival was without doubt the Journey show. Things started off weird in the afternoon when we realised that not only had they brought their producer and studio engineer Kevin Elson along to mix the show, he had also set up his FOH world at the very back of the house, backstage! He was standing behind our recording truck with his stuff, listening to the mix through two stage wedges standing on top of his console. We were recording the show for the radio and the SRF dvd but beside our 48 track Pro Tools recording, we were told by Elson numerous times that we also needed to record his mix that went to the PA. Fine, an extra stand alone CD recorder was brought in. I watched the show from out front and had a great time. The band sounded excellent. I decided to watch the rest of the show from the recording truck. Good sound and tv monitors with a feed from the big screen out front. Even better than watching in your living room. :^) I went backstage and on the way, I checked out Kevin Elson in action at the same time. When I got into the truck, our engineers was making funny faces and saying things like, "poor guy!" Lead singer Steve Augeri could not sing at all! No, it?s not the old rethoric of calling a singer with a bad day someone who "can?t sing". Steve Augeri was constantly out of tune and when he tried to reach the high parts, his voice just died in a sad croak. But didn?t it sound good in the PA out front? I went out to check again. Yes, the vocals sounded terrific. Was I going insane? I went back into the bus and the engineers started to question my sanity too as nothing could be done out front to fix this disaster. The main project manager for our business at the festival showed up and was as surprised and puzzled as I was when he heard what was coming down that vocal line to the truck. After a lot of running back and forth and scratching of heads, one of the recording engineers plugged in a pair of headphones into the CD recorder that was recording Elson?s house mix. In that mix, the vocals were perfect. With one headphone on and the other listening to our feed in the bus it was obvious that something fishy was going on. We looked at our surveillance camera on stage and noticed a guy sitting a bit out of place to the left of the drum tech. I went up on stage to have a look and there was a guy with two digital multitrack recorders, apparently sending a prerecorded, correct vocal to the house mix but not to our bus. There were also some prerecorded synth pads and backing vocals but we got those to the bus. This raised so many questions and things running in our heads: * This was not a temporary solution to help a guy having a bad day on tour. You don?t bring that rack with recorders and one extra guy on tour to have a backup in case the singer gets a cold. Ok, the rack and the operatot could have been flown in but wouldn?t it have been easier to just cancel the show if the guy was sick? * Another thing suggesting this was not just a guy with a bad throat was that in our feed, the "real" live vocal line, Mr. Augeri was not holding back like he probably should have done if he had a bad throat. He was launching head first into the performance screaming his lungs off. If he has a throat problem, it will only get worse by this behaviour. * Neal Schon of Journey has said in interviews that Augeri had throat problems on the last tour, forcing them to use the drummer to sing lead vocals on some songs. On the last album, Augeri sings half the songs and the other members sing the rest. "Because it was fun" according to interviews with band members. Yeah, maybe so but maybe also to help a singer who can?t sing? * If the singer really is this bad, why not just kick him out? * The other band members put on a stellar show. How do they feel on the bus every night knowing they have to substitute their singer with a tape? How fun can that be? * How could Kevin Elson think that our recording engineers wouldn?t notice anything? Wouldn?t it have been easier to feed the prerecorded vocals to our bus too, or just deny us to record the band. We get to record many bands but there are those that refuse too, without giving any particular reasons. The first time one of our engineers went out to talk to Elson during the show, Elson had the fixed vocals in his monitors but he told our guy that "we probably have to take this home and fix the vocals", as if Augeri had a bad day. Why lie a colleague right in the face like that? Later, the cd from the FOH mix was approved for broadcast the next day. No fixing needed because it was already fixed. I don?t have any strong feelings against spicing up a live show with some fatter backing vocals or backup things that makes the show better but substituting the lead vocals? Reverse karaoke? I?m a big Journey fan and I don?t get sad or angry, just very confused. /Svante

wildone
Bitch slapped....to funny.... what a moron.... I guess he made up the story from sweden to right...and if they cancel there tour then what will you have to say???Oh but wait the bt area is famous for making up stories of some sort to make there boys look like they still walk on water...They don?t...there human just like everyone else and things happen to them to...It?s just not cool if they decide to take our money continue on like it?s all good and then hide from what seems to be the obvious.How come no statements from the band about this.I mean it has been on local radio stations so you?d think they?d have something to say about it .

Dean
Thanks Mark for the comeback. Mark is ace everyone. Hi Mark. It looks like Bi polar Dean is kicking the shit out of Journey and its "fans."

Dean is getting Bitched slapped all over the place!We all know Dean is Spanky.The only proof you have Dean about anything is that your foot is being put in your mouth!Step back from the computer Dean,take your Bi Polar meds and come back down to earth.We know that the Alian Bi Polar doctor was hard on you.Go get your Ridlin scril filled please.One foot in Dean?s ass and the other in his mouth.Oh,people do hate Dean,we all know that.Have a nice day.Waving Hi Dean Polar.

wildone
Exactly!!!this is about the band and if there doing right by there fans or not!!!It?s as simple as that.If they have nothing to hide then why haven?t they said so?You would think they would try to dispell the so called rumors and not let this all get out of hand...or are they just trying to figure out the best way to to cancel the tour with out bringing up the lipsyncing part of the show??So yeah this isn?t about Dean or anyone else for that matter this is about the band and being honest to there fans who are shelling out great money for this show!!You all know how much the 5 star tickets are.

Discusted is a fat bag of shit
This isn?t about Dean?s character. His character isn?t in question. This is about a rock band cheating its fans for two tours in a row now. TWO TOURS IN A ROW! NIGHT AFTER NIGHT! When you?re ready to stop deflecting and actually talk about the issue at hand let us know.

Discusted
You all assume too much, and like a pack of wolves jump on people and attack. You know nothing about the people you go after who have a different opinions. Like a bunch of children slinging mud at one another -- Sticks & stones people! Dean, the way you try to spin this issue, your past and continuing actions, lies, threats and filthy mouth say more about you & your pathology than anything. No need for me to prove a damned thing, People are not as ignorant as you think and can see this all clearly. Keep on digging that hole, you are in way over your head. You are a sad lilttle man and have my pity.

Rick
No hard evidence? Go to the blog site, dumbass. There is AMPLE evidence and that?s not even the half of it. I hope Augeri has a good financial advisor because he is about to be blacklisted by the industry in a matter of months. Deservedly so.

wildone
Ricky....awww heck your not even worth it......

Ricky
Came across this message, this is old news, three years ago someone some Perryhead started this and to this day they have never come up with any hard evidence. Journey stage manager addressed it a long time ago as bullshit and that my friend is what it is. But I see where it?s coming from, in a country where the president orders planes to attach the pentagon and the twin towers.

wildone
The Guy is a big fan and had alot of friends in the bt area but he found something out came forward with it... and got thrown to the wolfes by said so called friends as they turned there backs on him...You got to love a family like that ...NOT!!!...Kudos for having the balls Dean...

Manny
Well, looks like Fraudgeri defenders have thrown in the towel. Deano and Co. smoked the living shit out of them. Deano, I don?t agree with your style, but dude, you are a hard assed opponent, I wouldn?t want to have to debate you!

Dean
Hi Frank, and your band od BT ers. keep bashing me and my girlfriend. It?s all our fault that your lead singer has resorted to miming. Just two days ago, you were all screaming, "Steve Augeri does not lip synch!" Now its, "so what, all bands do it." Hahaha. Then you go bash Perry and say "Perry who?" Too much. This isnt about Perry. This is about morality and a sense of well being. You people at BT are a pathetic group, not me and My girl. At least we are not deaf, dumb and bling. Oh and please stop the "They have families, and this is their livelyhood BS." They are making millions upon millions. Go fuck yourselves; all of you deaf dumb and flatout stupid twats; yeah Frank, you are a giant sour creamed taco grande.

Hey - tough guys!
After you spend your evening threatening to beat the crapout of each other do you open a nice bottle of wine and listen to "Opens Arms?" I mean - I love Journey and everything - but let?s face it - they are a girl soft rock group from the 1980s - and not worth having a heart-attack over.

still a fan
It is a sad day when so-called Journey fans have to resort to personal attacks and insults because they cannot come up with a valid argument. Attacking people is not going to help your cause. I?m sure the stand-up men of Journey are proud of you. Try making a point to refute, rather than attack. You make Journey fans look bad and as a fan I don?t appreciate it. If you can?t think of something intelligent to say, please keep your fingers off of the keyboard.

Lip synching is wrong. Period.
"if you are torn between feeding your family and going to a journey concert you re-evaluate your priorities" - You presume far too much. Besides, even if I were to win the lottery tommorow, I wouldn?t feel right giving Neal and his traveling band of theives another nickel. I advise all self-respecting Journey fans to do the same. Anyone who ever believed in this band and its music should feel screwed right about now. I know I do. I submit that those who choose to turn a blind eye and continue to unconditionally support this band, are the one in dire need of a priority check.

yadayadayada
well i suggest discustedoneisretarded that if you are torn between feeding your family and going to a journey concert you re-evaluate your priorities. Not everyone goes to a concert just because they want to. They go because they can afford to. And how interesting to see that Dean?s BT girlfriend thinks she will be picking up where she left off last tour. I hope they kick your sorry ass out of the 5*. What a pathetic couple you two are.

Not true.
"All bands do it, so what." Yeah, if by "all bands" you mean teeny bopper boy bands and pop schlock like Britney Spears. Journey contains some of the finest musicians in existence, they deserve a frontman of equal caliber.

Not a Perry lover, sadly. Try again.
"there is the key word to hear "the voice." I knew it another Perry lover. " Sorry. Not a Perry lover. Just because I quoted the former frontman doesn?t mean I am advocating for his return. Glad he?s gone and don?t want him back. With that said, Perry?s quote is germane though. People come to hear the voice. People come to hear the high notes. And in that department Augeri can sadly no longer deliver.

milliondollarbaby
there is the key word to hear "the voice." I knew it another Perry lover. All bands do it, so what, it is a good time and worth the money. The band is great and the fans still love them. Your point is??? If you can?t afford to go to the shows for entertainment don?t go !!! For those of us who can, looking forward to the tour !!!!

Discusted Misses the Point
" many bands do this same thing so what?" Most bands aren?t nearly as vocally-intensive as Journey. As their former frontman once said "people come to hear the voice". That?s partially true. I mainly come for Neal. But that?s besides the point. What they are doing is outright highway robbery. Yes, the music IS uplifting. Yes, their music does span generations. And yes, their music does bring people together, but that has nothing to do with the fact that what they have done for two tours now is morally reprehensible.

Discusted is Retarded
Discusted wrote..... "This is their livelyhood, do you think they do not have families to care for and feelings that can be hurt?" -Don?t you think the hardworking fans who save up their shekels to go take in a LIVE show also have families and also have livelihoods? Speaking personally as someone of limited means, I can tell you that going to concerts can severely take a chomp out of one?s income (factor in travelling expenses, food, tickets prices etc). If I knew what I know now, I would not have spent all those hundreds upon hundreds of dollars seeing this band last year. Maybe you live in the lap of luxury, "Discusted", but many fans live down here in the real world so do us all a favor and shut your silver spooned tongue.

milliondollarbaby
Great post discusted one. Not trying to break up the band bring any one down. Just by your comments, that will never happen. This soon will past and you will look like the idiot we all figured you out to be. I see you have lots of control over your girlfriend too, 5* meet and greet, why would she want to meet and greet the band she hates so much?? And have good seats? Purely pathetic. Have a good life !!! And Wildone, let the countdown begin to some good rock n roll shows !!!!

Discusted
Dean, Whether or not this is true, that is not the issue. The point here is that you have made a mission to destroy Steve Augeri and the entire band personally. Not to mention try to ruin millions of fans perception of the band! Who died & made you God? You have NO RIGHT! Freedom of speech be damned, this is a moral issue! This is their livelyhood, do you think they do not have families to care for and feelings that can be hurt? Oh I get it, you just dont care...you think you are "informing the fans of this terrible deception" BULL SHIT! It is not a question of decieving the fans as you claim, many bands do this same thing so what? The fans have fun, see a great show and enjoy themselves! It?s just your sick little grab at fame...utterly pathetic! This band has brought together people from all over the world & thier music has uplifted millions. It is so rare in this day and age that there is a good thing that can make people forget the troubles in their lives and give them some hapiness for a while, you should be ashamed!!! This world is full of crime, war and terrible tradgedies, things that people should focus on trying to fix, and here you are on your high horse trying to destroy a ray of sunlight in the world! Bad form! Just remember you reap what you sow, this negativity will all come back to you and 10 fold! Get a life! Leave the band alone & put your energies into somthing that will do good in this world, stop hurting the many for your own twisted glory!

wildone
and the count down begins........

Patty
Tell me Deano you didn?t give this to Howard Stern? O my. Consider it over by knockout. Good Lord.

Press release this week? There is strong rumour that the tour will be cancelled

wildone
Thanks Dean it?s pretty much as simple as that !!The boys need to come clean explain why ....and just move on it?s really as simple as that ...but the longer they wait and not say a word the more this builds up ...and when everyone is now watching ...well it?s the best time to let us know and put this thing to rest ...But until then this will keep going on and on....

"ment by Ceece at 6/15/2006 4:54:29 AM -That Deano guy sounds like a Faggott to me.Him and wild one suck each others asses!You assholes are going to eat your own shit.You will be made afool Deano.Thats right,you already are a fool." Hi Frank. You are such a tard.

Dean
Why do the Augeri defenders hate me? Seriously? I was the biggest supporter of him at MR. Hey, dont shoot the messenger, shoot the liars and fakers.

Dean
Please folks, either argue against me or put up some claims. Seems you cant refute anything I put up. Again, I dont want to break off Journey. Just sing live. Is that too much to ask?

wildone
well if you call that a life...you better give it back cause your fucking it all up!!!!Low life...lmao hmm thats like lipsyncing right

milliondollarbaby
Get some class Wildone, oh yeah thats right you were Deano?s number one student on how to be a low life dumbshit 101. You guys enjoy yourselves digging deeper. We will see who will be the last ones laughing. Gotta go, I have a life !!!!

wildone
and you?d probably love to watch something like that..but of course in the bushes so you can use 2 fingers to whack your lil self off..and when all hell breaks loose you all are gonna be in hidding or waiting in line to suck our asses...

Ceece
That Deano guy sounds like a Faggott to me.Him and wild one suck each others asses!You assholes are going to eat your own shit.You will be made afool Deano.Thats right,you already are a fool.

wildone
and no balls even to put a name out ..lmao wow to funny

wildone
Yes i am ...My kids are great ...there smarter then you could ever wish to be. They love reading the bt stuff and in there words "those people are whack "and really need to get lives..

Gee wildone is that your son talking or you? Lovely what you?re raising over there in California!

wildone
Nah ...You?ll do just fine....get a hair cut so I?ll have a place to put my beer while your sucking me off...

milliondollarbaby
Dream on wildone, hey maybe Deano would be interested, you know he could be your bitch !!

wildone
Oh wait he has pneumonia again right ????oh wait He already used that one!!!

wildone
Geee i need to buy stock in a razor blade company .... I?m thinking theres going to be a big sale on them pretty soon!!!! But i promise to send you all flowers when you do it!!!!

Oh No
BT is weeks away if not days, of being no more. There is rumor Journey will have a press statement this week. Might cancel tour. I am a huge Journey fan, but Deano is making too good of a case.

wildone
everyone oh please all come back when the shit goes down !!!Ilove to laugh at all you cult people...beating off...lmao thats what your mouth is for ...and seems to be doing a great job to ...

looks like the only thing going down is all of you on Deano so he feels like a man...............

milliondollarbaby
give it up wildone and go back to beating off to your Perry pictures !! I am not going any where and I will be the first one back here to tell you guys you were all wrong !!!!

wildone
Did?nt think you could handle any more...figured you had so much shit on your lips from kissing ass that you needed a break .and if things do go down please feel free to come on back so we all can say i told ya so !!and it?s not gonna stop ...well unless they actually come out and tell the truth or some story other story why they had to do it..

milliondollarbaby
thats all you can come up with "quit kissing so much ass" Yeah tears of joy when all this bullshit stops and you guys will have nothing left to do but scramble for some more bullshit

wildone
There just might be a rude awakening comming up soon ...and then let the tears flow...

wildone
lmao hmmm you recognized the shit....thats a scary thought quit kissing so much ass...

Milliondollarbaby
Yeah Wildone good one !!! You enjoying the doorknobs too?? I take it thats your shit on it. Just like all the shit that is being posted. Get a life

wildone
That write up from sweeden is priceless!!!!!!Hmmm go figure...Oh but wait another conspiracy...lol

wildone
journey fan forever .....if this all comes to ahead then if the door hits journey on the ass I?m sure you?ll be the first person to suck the shit off the door knob!!!

Dean
Hi all! Big Wave. Just wanted to say hi. (Smiles) I have no problem continuing this. Just updated the blog, er the truth.

yadayadayada
Comment by Harold at 6/15/2006 2:01:42 AM -"Comment by Journeyfanforever at 6/15/2006 1:14:51 AM -Why don?t you all get a life and just put this to rest. You are all a bunch of losers !!!!!" You would love that wouldnt you. So Bob Woodward is a loser for exposing Nixon and watergate? Deano is not a loser, he is a ballsy dude, with gumption and grit. Dude should get an award for exposing this. They can?t sue him. He is right all the way around. Journey is fucked. And yes, I am an attorney. Gotta love an attorney that compares this to Watergate and uses the terms "dude" "fucked" and "ballsy". What are you on Judge Judy?s staff?

Harold
"Comment by Journeyfanforever at 6/15/2006 1:14:51 AM -Why don?t you all get a life and just put this to rest. You are all a bunch of losers !!!!!" You would love that wouldnt you. So Bob Woodward is a loser for exposing Nixon and watergate? Deano is not a loser, he is a ballsy dude, with gumption and grit. Dude should get an award for exposing this. They can?t sue him. He is right all the way around. Journey is fucked. And yes, I am an attorney.

Journeyfanforever
Should have known you would find another place to stir up shit with. Don?t let the door get you in the ass on your way out. Oh wait, you might enjoy that !!!!

wildone
Call KFOG and ask them ...or just check out the news column on the left here and read the latest story on the uk tour...I know you guys want to beleive only the best we all do ...but where there?s smoke !!!!!!you know ...and no reason to be called losers cause well if it?s true ....Milli Vanilli here we come!!!!lol and yeah they did win an award to did?nt they ...and the Oscar goes to ...lmao

Journeyfanforever
Why don?t you all get a life and just put this to rest. You are all a bunch of losers !!!!!

wildone
Hmmm you might want to check out the radio staion KFOG they were talking about journey lipping on the news this morning at 7:00 am ....Hmmm I guess there in on the conspiracy to ..

HisMistress
Hey Blogger...just curious who is funding the 5* shows for your girlfriend this tour....I can?t understand why she wants to go to the show at all, let alone do the 5* thing!?!??!??!? Again you have nothing but another website buying into your conspiracy theory. Oh and by the way, for all you "supporters of this "theory" this is the airport, and the runway is backed up for days....................

DeniseNYC
Spanky, i?ve done live sound, and that?s a pretty inefficient and outdated way of doing it. If anything, there would be a multitrack backstage. But I guess Journey is old school, so anything is possible.

Rob
I?ve seen 3 shows last week, 3 different set lists and 3 times a different sounding Steve Augeri. No tapes used for sure. So people that cannot get used that Perry isn;t in Journey anymore, get a life....

There is no shame in having been fooled. That may be what some who cannot believe it are feeling. Milli Vanilli fooled many, many people and even won a Grammy before they were outed.

The Jig is Up
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.audio.pro.live-sound/browse_thread/thread/9431c4152805faf0/ee4219843a8d88fd?lnk=st&q=journey+weirdness&rnum=1#ee4219843a8d88fd

Ronald
Reading this and all the comments make me so sad. If you?re a Journeyfan then make sure you enkoy the music, if you?re not, don?t listen to it. I have been to Arrow Rock Festival and Journey was the best band there, this was also said by many non Journey fans. It?s not about Steve?s voice (which was in good shape that night) it?s about a band of serious musicians who are at the top of their game. Make love guys, not war.. music is supposed to unite people, not the other way around.

penny
wow "Spanky" that looks just like the same BS post Shania posted at MR. It?s obvious that if you disagree with any of this, you get called any and everything under the sun. They say it?s got nothing to do with being a perryhead, yet...hmmm...let me see, seems that?s the only support good old Deano?s been able to rally..coincidence? ya think? I hope, no, I pray the band/Steve Augeri sue?s all the individual?s and websites that are allowing such libel to be posted. Man, it?s gonna suck to be you...hello karma

Spanky
Following is an explanation of how it CAN be done without the audience realizing. Granted the blogger seems way too full of himself, but ingore his commentary and just check the clips for yourself. Nothing has been done to deny it. The threads are always deleted on the official site. No one has been able to come up with anything at all to disprove the allegations save for a lot of childish name calling directed at the people who do hear for themselves. Many individuals have checked the clips themselves and they always lineup with the 2001 Live DVD. Do your own test and judge for yourselves. How it?s done: They went in the studio and took the vocal tracks out from a live CD they had previously released;then they loaded the tracks in the keyboard player?s computer.18 songs,even the 3 tracks for the encore. The keyboard player had the click track as well as all the others in their ear monitors.They would start off the songs,do some ad-libs,then the keyboardist would start the voice track.The lead singer would be either in the dark so no one sees the first word of the song(that?s the hard part to match,even if he has a click track),or he would hide his mouth behind the mike to "cloak" his vocal intro. After that,everything looked so natural?Funny enough,the backing vox were live,the bass player and the guitarist were singing for real.I saw all this first hand,backstage,plus someone from the tech crew gave me some more technical details.I also went to the mixer.The sound guy had monitors in which he heard the overall sound and made sure the taped voice blended with the live band perfectly.That was his only task.Oh,yeah and to keep the singer?s mike muted during the "singing". I believe that?s the procedure,no matter if it?s the No-One-Heard-Of-Them band or Journey. I have to say this...If I wouldn?t have known (and seen) the inside story,I would have been fooled... especially if I would have been in the audience.The noise,the energy,the lights and no terms of comparison make everything look perfectly fine.The audience can be fooled easily."

ejw
Don?t hear, don?t see it. Just someone with nothing to do

Techie
Thanks for the info, Kaj. I seriously doubted this when I first read about it. I said no, not these guys. I refused to believe they would deceive fans that have followed them so long. I listened to the songs and understand how this is done with the microphone turned off during the song except in a few choice places to address the crowd or segue into another song. It is not that technical, even for the novice, but for anyone in the business, it is a no brainer.

Tom
No, it wouldn?t prove anything. If they were to play a new never played before song, Augeri would sound so bad, that it would still prove that they are taping......Because the next song would sound studio perfect again.

Yumi
If the band to play a new song, like never before, it would be to prove.

That?s a good idea, Kaj. The "other" side cannot defend the accusation. There is the problem.

Kaj
Any personal attacks from now on will be deleted,go ahead and discuss Journey but keep it calm folks.

wildone
If idiots could fly, Balk Talk would be an airport??? What a phrase to wake up to!!!Thanks for the big SMILE!!!!That would be one hell of a busy airport...

Stacy
LOL!! Jesus,Frank,is that foam around your filthy little mouth?My goodness?you sound like you are off meds! Ok,I understand now.You REALLY are a retard. Why didn?t you say so?I would have used a simpler language for ya. Before a short recap,I would like to give you some advices.1)Go back to school.Your spelling sucks big time.2)Stop shaking like a leaf ? no one is going to lay a finger on you,buddy.Who would beat up an ignorant lardass?Geez.3)Go and look back in your own childhood,Frankie boy ? I have a feeling you were the laughing stock of your elementary school and I bet you were a virgin until 25.Obviously,you have a penis problem,you are obsessed with genitals.Tell me?Do you need a magnifying glass to see that little thingy?Sure you do.4) Ask Pitman out for a date.You want to give him a blow job, I know you do!.?..Well,how do you like it so far,Fuckie? Feels good,eh? All your replies until now are worthless. You have no moral fiber and you certainly lack essence in your pathetic speech. Let me make this clear for you,Faggie: the minute you will come up with something to refute the evidence posted on Deano?s blog,you will get attention.Until then, I suggest you take a break and eat your donuts.That?s what you do best. Next time stay away from a debate that clearly exceeds your tiny IQ. Ok.Now?Short recap: Steve Augeri IS lipping songs in concert.There are already so many people who know this it?s undeniable. That?s what pisses you off,right?Well,you and your group of sad cheerleaders should start getting used to the fact that Journey resorted to this scam for money.But from now on it will be YOUR money,not ours,the ones who are demanding honesty.Got it?No? Damn it,Frank?you bore me to death. ?Ass Hole??What?s that? A description of your mouth? I thought so.

faithful
If idiots could fly, Balk Talk would be an airport??? Good laugh to start the day! They continue to delete any and all information regarding lip synching at that place instead of meeting it head on. Unless you can call posting information regarding illegal bootlegs meeting it head on AND that ain;t answering the question, just scare tactics to make the messenger go into hiding. I am ashamed for them using mob tactics. It is quiet at BT because even some of the diehards are feeling cheated I bet and sitting back to watch quietly, hoping that someone in Journey Management will come forward to soothe them. Tick, tock, tick, tock................................................

P
please calm down folks and discuss as normal people. We will take away mails like Franks if this level continues...

Frank Martinez
Is that all you got Dean you stupid Fuck.We all know I am fat!Your coments show how stupid you really are.Maybe I should just call you Tommy.We all know you had childhood problems,why lash out on a Rock and Roll band.Your old lady teaches the mentaly challanged,we all know your mentaly challanged.Why dont you have her teach you a thing or two you FUCKING DUMB Bastard.You want to bash my teeth in pal,you lay one finger on me or anybody else,you will be sued for everything you own.You threts to people with bodly harm have been noted and copied.I will assure you this,you assult any person with bodly harm, that will be the last thing you do pal.I cant wait to see Craig Pitman brake you in two.Like I said before you have the balls of a mouse and the brain of a boy.Hydrogen peroxide and warm water will clear the wax out of your ears you stupid Mother Fucker,use it already.Steve Augeri does not lip Sync.And quit posting as other people,we read right threw you ,we know you have no BALLS .If any body is retarted it is you Dean and yes you can also go Fuck your self little man with no penis.I speak for many people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ass Hole

Frank Martinez
Go Fuck your self Stacy,you are just as stupid as little boy Dean.You probably are Dean,you both are sick fucks!It figures all meth heads think alike.

P
Perhaps Steve can join Milli Vanilli. They used to have the same look as well with the same type of white shirts and long cruise hair... This is funny... We?re talking about heros here... he he...

Stacy
Holy Mama! If it isn?t Meme and Frankie! Where the hell have ya been you fucktards?? I?ve been looking all over the place for you carrying this huge megaphone cuz I know you two are fucking deaf and you need to hear this! Ready? STEVE AUGERI IS LIP-SHYNCHING!!! Was it loud enough, you dumbfucks??Hope that one took the goddamned wax outta your ears. Good. Now, before you go and actually LISTEN to the tracks posted on the blog,I want you to read what I?ll write here.Umm,can you read?Crossing fingers. So! Let?s see?First off,Dean,the blog owner,is the one who uncovered the Journey shit.He had the balls ( Frank,try touching yours..What?Nothing there?Damn!).. so Deano had the guts to tell the truth and more,he offered enough PROOF for anyone to understand what is going on in the Journey camp.It doesn?t even matter if Augeri lipped one song in one show,or lipped through every show ? the fact remains:he DID it.And once a whore always a whore,ya know? Anyway,the idea is ? leave Dean out of this and focus on the goddamned problem: the FRAUD! That?s what should concern all of you tards who refuse to see the facts: Journey is fooling their fans, taking their money and mocking the legacy of the Journey name! Now second: when a band is accused of such a serious thing like falsification, the management is supposed to make a statement. If not them,then the leader of the band should come out and either admit the fraud,either try to explain how in the hell Steve Augeri can sing a song in 2005 the EXACT same way he did in 2001? Geez.Wake up! This deep silence on the other end does nothing else but prove that Journey cannot defend themselves,so their hope is that all this will fade and go away.Well,guess what?it?s too late for that. Meme,Fuckie,I mean Frankie, and all the other blind dogs out there ? this is about morality and it?s about robbery too. Journey is treating their fans like idiots and then rips them off by taking their money for a phony show.If you accept that, it means you are complete idiots and you get what you deserve: shit. The fans with backbones and brains, demand respect. As long as we are buying what they produce, then we ask for the real thing,not some fucking cheap imitation! Hey Frankmeister,if someone would sell you a painting and tell you ?It?s a genuine Picasso?,then after you pay a shitload of money you find out it?s a great copy of the great Picasso,what do you do?I say you should call the Police and get the fucker who duped you.No?You forgive the thief?Then I say go fuck yourself.Wouldn?t be for the first time anyway,right? As for Back Talk,I can only say this: if idiots could fly,that place would be an Airport.

Kaj
There are too many fans out there who wants to know the truth and one way of showing that from Augeri is to sing a song that he hasn?t sung before of the Perry catalogue so he cannot pickup the old tapes and use them again like I think they do this tour. No normal singer has the mic glued to his mouth like Augeri has on all the pic?s I have seen from the European tour! Something is very strange here.

Dean
Oh this is too easy. Meme? who the Hell are you? I ask because you of course are too afraid to state who you really are. No job? ok. No life? ok. I have never been booted off a site. hell, I can still post at BT. Get your facts straight. You are pathetic. So is your classless singer and band. This is a disgrace. Now, wake up early tomorrow, and make sure you go spam my blog! WOOHOO! Typical Journey BT ers...Go pray for whatever the Hell it is you pray foe and release butterflys. You stupid twat.

Dean
Spanky, email will you at derbydeano@yahoo.com. Thanks

I will post manchesters? crimes, er songs tomorrow, and merge them with the ripeed boot, Vegas 2001. I was ready to let this go, but assholes like Fat Frank have inspired me. Thanks Frank. Hey folks, I have more proof than what you have seen. I can?t play my entire hand yet. Use your brains. Oh dear Frank. I am not some convoluted perry fan..If you need to look that up, hurry up, I?ll wait..........okay, I supported this current lineup 24/7 from 98 til last year July. Don?t you think it would take something big to get me to get off the wagon? Kaj, someone in the industry is close to running with this...Email Kaj

Dean
Well well well. Good ol Frank Martinez shows up. Hey Fatass, why don?t you come on over to Mr or my site and use your real name? My dear fat fuck, I have proof. I don?t give a shit how many shows you went to, you are too fucking stupid to know. You can?t tell by looking, retard. Looking at the way you write, it astonishes me that you even have a drivers? license. Now, if I am the one with small balls, tell me why Kaj brought this over here, and Smoking gun is probably going to take it as well as others? I just recieved a UK show they did last week. I got news for you BT ers, and you too, Fat Frank...They are pulling the same shit again. Steve Augeri cannot sing. Oh no, then why won?t the band say anything? Why won?t they dispell the rumours? hey can?t because they know they are busted. Fat Frank, feel free to come on down to SoCal and tell me to my face what you spew on here. You will have a mouth full of teeth. Probably do you good. You couldn?t eat for a month. Not to worry, you have enough body fat tolast a year without food. Oh by the way, you owe someone 150 dollars, loser.

wildone
Don?t beleive Nedra ....its a conspiracy i tell ya!!!!LMAO and whos that Man In Black!!!lmao if they?d just fess up this would?nt even be happening!!!Have fun

wildone
LMAO Spanky!!!!!hey you can take over this is way to easy !!!

Spanky
I wondered why Backtalk was so dead!!!! The cheerleaders have arrived to defend Fraudgeri!!!

nedra
The clips speak for themselves. All you have to do is check them against the 2001 Live DVD yourself.

wildone
and yet no screen name ...scrared???figured ...and my son has way more of a life then you could ever dream of having ....well he?s not waiting for the big ship to come down like you are ...(and i hope it comes soon)but he knows enough when he looks at that site that you all need some deep help over there and can?t beleive how you all act ....but go back to your lil dream world anmd have a blast ....you fucking stooge!

Frank Martinez
Meme,just remember who we are dealing with here.A troubled man with no brain!,no penis and really Dean you know you have the BALLS of a mouse.So just walk away with your tail between your legs Deano because the only thing that comes out of your mouth is BULL SHIT.

Meme
your poor kid....he?s got no life either. Dear old Mom/Dad whatever you are drags him into cyber space. Get some grownup friends and leave the kid alone. AGAIN - Deano will never have anything other than the clips he keeps putting up. And the more he splices them to prove his point, the less believable it becomes.

wildone
Hey Meme i think your ship is landing hope your sweat suit is clean !!!LMAO!!!!!!!!

wildone
Yeah my son feels you all need couch time over there... and whats your screen name over there ....got the balls to let us know???Time warp???Hmmm how many NEW songs were played over in uk ands how many classics..go figure and you probably look great in the whiteshoes!!!!

again...
it is only two shows that we have heard from. I?m not convinced. Show me that it is the same version of Be Good To Yourself (for example) from all 13 bootlegs that you say you have. Maybe he does need help on these songs and it so happened to be on those two nights.

Frank Martinez
Deano,I think you and your old lady need some couch time.Didn?t she see Journey 20 times last year.Oh ya thats right you are good at brain washing people.Big man little penis,yup thats Deano,thats why he lashes out on people he dont even know!

Meme
sorry to disappoint you wildone, not me. the cult thing is funny considering jrnytocalif can?t seem to get out of the precious time warp. oh wait that?s you!

Frank Martinez
Dean,you are not fooling anyone.You are just some poor pethetic punk who needs to get a life.We know you have no balls so you take shots at people!Think about it.How many forums have you been kicked off of?You are a boy of a man and that adds up to being a weezel.You remind me of Tommy in Butterfly affect.

wildone
no shrine lol I just know the real thing when i hear it... without a back up tape..and meme if you fall under the more then 10 times in a year ...you need some couch time!! or have you already bought your white adidas???

Meme
wildone....thanks for proving what a fucking moron you really are! go kiss the perry shrine in your bedroom.

wildone
and its funny how if you say your piece of mind over there in cult central and it?s not to the liking of the cult leaders your booted....but others can do and say what they want and get away with it...Break out the black sweat suits and white adidas!!!

wildone
lmao that was my son posting the second time.and i didnt put him up to it he thought it was way to funny how the cult thing was going on !!!!

Meme
No wildone spooky is getting booted off a site, coming back under a new name and actually thinking you fooled anyone. Or posting as two different people in the same thread.......gee you need a life too man!

faithful
Come on Meme, get OUT of that guys bed!

wildone
wow 29 times ....I better just leave that all alone.....kind of spooky

Meme
Know what scares me.........one poor excuse of a man spending endless hours trying to destroy something good. Getting booted from website after website, posting to his own blog as other people and now this. GET A LIFE DEANO!

faithful
Frank (or anyone) seeing journey 29 TIMES in one year scares me more than Augeri lip synching! Oh wait...does Frank WORK for them?? Is he a relative of a band member? If not, please get the guy some help

Meme
You tell them Mr Martinez.... :)

wildone
leave Journey alone??? hey if we are paying for a show we should get the real thing thats all its seems to be saying here!If there?s a problem with steve A?s voice dont you think it would be better for him to rest it and get over what ever he might have?Or is it just that trying to keep up with the sound of steve perry is just kicking his ass!!!

Frank Martinez
Its all a bunch of bull shit.Steve Augeri does not lip sync,thats absurd.I saw Journey 29 times in 2005 and was front row 90 percent of the time.You people are are being fooled by some whacko Obsesed Perry fan.Its your own fault if you buy into it.Beleive what you want but it is not the truth at all.

Meme
The blogger has nothing....he?s a conspiracy theorist. No job, no life...this is all he has to do.

faithful
heard smoking gun is on to this!

nedra
Thanks for finally bringing this to light. There have been rumors of this for a couple of years, but the threads about it at the official always get deleted. It is sad that a once great band has to stoop to cheating its fans. The clips at the blog have been checked and rechecked by many different people, some in the hopes that they would be able to prove that he wasn?t lipsynching, but they only found out that he is. In many of them you can tell where the prerecorded vocal goes in and out because of the horrible way that Augeri?s voice sounds now.

Sindee67
I?m curious to know, why they are willing to go through all that for their sick lead singer, but, weren?t willing to wait a bit for Steve Perry....They should have listened, LEAVE JOURNEY ALONE, GO DO YOUR OWN THINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT, LEAVE JOURNEY ALONE, now, look at this mess! All I can do is shake my head....

A Concerned Fan
One thing you have to understand about this...this person from the blog website has yet to provide enough evidence to make a decision one way or another. Yes, these songs are very convincing. However, the blog owner says that he has many shows from last tour, but still refers to only two shows. And he also says that they have been lipping all songs every show. Yet, no evidence of every single song from a variety of shows. Be aware when looking at this site before you make an opinion.

Dina
Wow, a great band like this, lipping during a show. Unbeliable! Thanks for the info.

Andy
I heard about that last week. A few of my friends were discussing that. Thanks for the link.

Did you know that?

Before they were known as Journey with Steve Perry, the band was called Golden Gate Rhythm Section.

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